CBDA........

[Debinnv]

I found this interesting, does this mean that possibly just eating the raw hemp could give better results?


WHAT IS CBDA & HOW IS IT RELATED TO CBD?
As mentioned previously, raw cannabis and hemp contain CBDA, which is an acidic form of CBD. It’s structurally more difficult to pass through the body’s blood-brain barrier than CBD is. This is one reason manufacturers decarb CBD-rich cannabis. Decarboxylation converts CBDA to the much more accessible CBD, making it easier for the body’s endocannabinoid system (ECS) to put CBD to work inside your body.

That said, CBDA has benefits of its own. The cannabinoid has been shown to help ease:

• Nausea
• Epilepsy
• Inflammation
• Pain

One of the most exciting findings in the early studies of CBDA is some evidence that it takes far less CBDA than CBD to elicit beneficial effects, but more study is needed.

If you grow your own high-CBD cannabis plants and wish to take advantage of CBDA, you’re in luck. You can access raw CBDA from the leaves and even the stems of fresh, high CBD-strain cannabis.

To get the benefits of CBDA, try adding fresh leaves to a green smoothie, blend up the leaves and freeze them for future use as canna ice cubes or add fresh, pungent leaves to salad.

If you want to experiment with CBDA and aren’t growing cannabis, look for CBD products that are labelled raw CBD.



But then it goes on to say this...............

For most people growing CBD, decarbing is essential when making edibles or topical treatments, and is an affordable way to keep the home cannabis pharmacy stocked with quality products that you can trust. Start with cannabis strains that are known for their high-CBD content, such as:

• Charlotte’s Web
• ACDC
• Ringo’s Gift
• Sour Tsunami
• Harlequin

Here is a link to where I read this

Do I Need to Decarboxylate CBD Flower?

You just bought your first cannabidiol (CBD) product. Unfortunately, you didn’t notice much, if any, beneficial effects. Does that mean CBD just doesn’t work for you? The problem may lie in how the manufacturer processed the product prior to you buying it. Because, for CBD to be optimally...

hellomd.com

 

[Huckleberried]

Interesting. I've never tried it, myself. Curious to hear what others think. @mach1ne, @Vaporjoe, @5150sick do you guys know?

 

[mach1ne]

im not sure what they are trying to actually say here. they say

As mentioned previously, raw cannabis and hemp contain CBDA, which is an acidic form of CBD. It’s structurally more difficult to pass through the body’s blood-brain barrier than CBD is.

and then right after they say

One of the most exciting findings in the early studies of CBDA is some evidence that it takes far less CBDA than CBD to elicit beneficial effects, but more study is needed.

without referencing their sources or saying how the people managed to metabolize it at all. if its more difficult to metabolize, how are people getting any benefit from using less of it? how do they use it?

then they say

To get the benefits of CBDA, try adding fresh leaves to a green smoothie, blend up the leaves and freeze them for future use as canna ice cubes or add fresh, pungent leaves to salad.

but is that how the participants in the un-named study did it? in my experience, there is a high enough % of people who get 'gut rot' from eating flower that i wouldnt recommend it to anyone. this is why we make butter and other infusions instead of just putting ground up flower into edibles. maybe fresh leaves are easier on the body than dried flower? i have never really tried eating more than one leaf (of fresh plant), and it was more to surprise the guy beside me than to medicate myself lol i didnt register an effect from it thats for sure.

then the rest of the article seems to focus on decarbing your flower, and a strange statement that, by itself, could confuse a rookie...

So, a consumer hoping to achieve this effect from cannabis, but who doesn’t decarb their marijuana will be sorely disappointed.

they do state in a different part of the article that smoking/vaping it will decarb it, but i can see a few noobs reading that line and thinking they have to decarb everything they use so they are not 'sorely disappointed'. they should have really specified here that they are talking about edibles...but then they are also kinda implying above, that you can get a better effect from eating it raw (with regard to cbda smoothies and leaves in salads). so which is it? raw plant is harder to metabolize, but gives better effects with smaller doses, or youll be sorely disappointed if you dont decarb everything?

not sure what to make of it overall lol

i have tried thc diamonds (which are pretty much pure thca) but i havnt seen/heard of anyone around here do it with cbd yet. the closest thing i have seen is just lumps of isolate that people sometimes refer to as diamonds, but thats just regular, decarbed isolate, not cbda.

 

[Debinnv]

Right? It's a bit confusing but I found it interesting and at the same time, almost like they are contradicting themselves. Was curious if others had heard of it. Made me think of how raw veggies are more beneficial ( nutritionally ) vs cooked. Or so I have always read anyway. I think some raw veggies can upset your tummy as you do not digest them as well?

 

[mach1ne]

yeah i would like to see the actual study. if there is a benefit to using cbda and an easy way to do it, i would love to know so i can try to introduce it to people. ill try to look into it when i get home later because it will prolly clear a lot of things up...

 

[Rhianne]

Possibly looking at Terpene profiles can show the percentage of CBD-A. But I’ve never looked so I’m not sure.

 

[mach1ne]

ok i did some further reading on this tonight. one of the earlier studies concluded that cbda is way more effective than thca as an anti-inflamitory. this study says they were using a 'crude extract of cannabis containing mainly CBDA'. you have to pay to read any more than the abstract of the study so i didnt see if they disclose how they get that, or see if they showed the test results of it 'containing mainly cbda', or the size and method of dosage. my theory is that they did a live extraction (a super cold extraction of plant material that is as fresh as possible) and ate the resulting oil.

another one mentions that cbda is far more effective at treating nausea and anxiety related to chemotherapy when combined with traditional chemo drugs. have to pay to read the whole thing, so i didnt see any mention of how they got the cbda or administered it.

i found a bunch of articles on juicing plant material to get the cbda (and thca). i cant find any actual test results on the juice, but i found a guy claiming he had his tested for thca and cbda and the results werent good enough for him to continue. he didnt show the results, or say anything about his process though, so he could be lying, or he could have done everything wrong making it (its easier to wreck it than collect it correctly). other people (who didnt have tests done) said it was helping a long list of things for them. the rest of the juicing stuff was all blog posts that sound like dumb hippies or influencers selling affiliate links and click bait. its hard to find an actual fact on juicing cannabis anywhere, but lots of people are talking about it

i also found a guy trying to make cbda diamonds using the techniques and equipment they use to make thca diamonds, and a bunch of people arguing about whether you even can. it looked like he was having some success, or at least was getting the start of what appeared to be something crystallizing in his test run.

my conclusion is that there is proof that cbda is better in some situations. those situations seem to be pretty limited right now. the only way to consume it is to eat it, because it will turn into regular cbd if you smoke/vape/cook it...and the only proven way to get it right now is in the form of live extracts of cbd heavy strains. juicing is an option thats easier to try, but you still need access to live plant material and its not really proven (at least that i could find) to actually contain cbda or thca. hopefully someone who does it can report back to us.