atomizers for concentrates?

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IF you haven't seen it, check out the TRVP atty v2. It's rebuildable, so no need to buy coils, just wire. I've got the Ti Top airflow Sai, the DvT 3.5, and the longmada motar and I've only been using the TRVP since I got it. I use it with a 14 mm hydrotube, it's a nice set-up.

I guess I could describe it a bit more, since it might be hard to find info. I don't have a camera or i'd upload pics. It's 24(?)mm, the coil is held in place on both sides of the deck by steel bars, instead of post holes. It makes building on it a little unusual but you get used to it. The coil drops down and sits inside a ceramic chamber the wax collects in. You can put some larger loads and not have to worry about overspill too much, as any excess usually just sits on the bars that hold the coil legs in place. I've been using it heavily for a few months now, and everytime you drop a new coil in it's like a brand new atty. I really am enjoying it a lot compared to other similar products. I've got an 8 wrap 2.5mm fused alien clapton build in there right now, it's really rocking it.

Ok, that's my little write-up. Not a salesman or anything, I've just gone through a lot of these, from the early Pen vapes.
 
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IF you haven't seen it, check out the TRVP atty v2. It's rebuildable, so no need to buy coils, just wire. I've got the Ti Top airflow Sai, the DvT 3.5, and the longmada motar and I've only been using the TRVP since I got it. I use it with a 14 mm hydrotube, it's a nice set-up.

I guess I could describe it a bit more, since it might be hard to find info. I don't have a camera or i'd upload pics. It's 24(?)mm, the coil is held in place on both sides of the deck by steel bars, instead of post holes. It makes building on it a little unusual but you get used to it. The coil drops down and sits inside a ceramic chamber the wax collects in. You can put some larger loads and not have to worry about overspill too much, as any excess usually just sits on the bars that hold the coil legs in place. I've been using it heavily for a few months now, and everytime you drop a new coil in it's like a brand new atty. I really am enjoying it a lot compared to other similar products. I've got an 8 wrap 2.5mm fused alien clapton build in there right now, it's really rocking it.

Ok, that's my little write-up. Not a salesman or anything, I've just gone through a lot of these, from the early Pen vapes.
been meaning to try some of these options out and finally went shopping. i found the trvp on sale and decided to start with that. do you do anything special with your coils or alter your builds at all for it? the coils they picture in the jetstream are always flattened and look like they wouldnt glow very evenly. another question is what about 'wick'? a lot of the disposable coils for this stuff are wrapped around quartz rods. i wonder if they would make a difference on something like a fused clapton or alien that has its own wicking capacity. a ss mesh/genesis style setup might work well here too. lots of experimenting to do once it gets here i guess. i havnt built a nice coil in ages lol hopefully this gets me back into it a bit :giggle:
 

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You could use a wick I suppose, but it's not necessary. You'd just have to use one of the ceramic or glass rods from a pre-built to wrap your coil around. There's sort of a trick to building coils - I will make the coil, then put it in place upside down, so it pokes up off the top of the tank rather than down into the ceramic chamber. That way you can heat treat the coil for any hotspots like a normal atty. Alternatively, you could use another tank, but I've found it's easier to keep the coil the right shape using the TRVP.

I've seen some posts on reddit/waxpen with people who used pliers and such to flatten their coils to eke that little bit of extra room out of the deck but when I tried I ran into the problem where, like you predicted, the coil doesn't heat up evenly enough.

I do believe it makes a difference to use the more complex kinds of wire. Twisted Flat (or flat/round mix) is my choice for e-liquid attys, it's such a smooth vape that never pops or crackles, let alone spits back. Since I found it that's what I use almost exclusively but I find it corrodes too quickly in a wax atty. The complex wire not only helps absorb more wax because of the greater surface area, it's also easier to burn off and clean multiple times before it needs to be replaced. I have a roll of the fused alien clapton that I now only use in the TRVP.
 
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I don't have any mesh strips but I'm sure those would work due to the bar-shaped deck design. Might have to try that out someday.
 
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Cool, look forward to hearing your impressions. It has a standard 810 drip tip config, if you can I'd really recommend running it through water filtration of some kind. Makes a huge difference, like any dab rig. I've got mine set at 42w (lol) and it has plenty of room for a bigger build if you really want to push it.
 
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Well? What's the verdict? I assume it's passable since you didn't rush back here to tell everyone I'm an idiot?
This thread's 'correct' answer had to be posted, anyway. Glad i could help, yw.
 
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Well? What's the verdict? I assume it's passable since you didn't rush back here to tell everyone I'm an idiot?
This thread's 'correct' answer had to be posted, anyway. Glad i could help, yw.
just got in. i havnt built a nice coil in over a year so i was a little nervous to sit down in front of the drill lol. luckily i found a spare on my desk from a staggerton build i did a year or two ago :giggle: its a tiny bit too big to fit comfortably, but the install was easy. i put it in upside down first like you said, got it glowing good, and flipped it over. the original build was for a quad parallel mech mod so it was quite low resistance. im running it as a single on a noisy cricket II in parallel mode. its very effective lol. the coil can almost soak up what i would consider a regular dab worth of shatter, but it takes me two puffs to dry it out. lots of experimenting to do now with that, as well as different types of coils, and possibly try to figure out a build specific to this deck. i feel like there is going to be a very specific/weird shaped coil that works better than a regular round one in this thing.

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I've seen ppl do dual verticals, believe it or not. It's def ruined me for other atty's, it's so much more effective and better tasting. Kinda funny vaping journey I went on. The first thing i bought was a vape pen, then I got into subohms, finally building RTA's. Never thought I'd get into mechs or squonking but now am planning on converting some Ram Stentorions into full mechs sometime. Found the Trvp at one point like 3 years ago, but they were all sold out everywhere and seems to have just come back into stock with the V2.

I've no idea if it's going to be banned by the PMTA's in may or not. It's not for ejuice but still falls under the 'vaping' category. Might be the last month they're available to purchase.
 
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yeah i ended up on mech mods almost as soon as i started building my own coils and i never really looked back. something about them just feels better. i cant wait to try some experiments with different builds in this thing but its working great right now so it will be a while before i mess with it.

so i have noticed its much nicer to try to load up one or two puffs at a time instead of flooding it. i find every puff after the first one tastes worse and worse. dry puffs on this coil are ruthless too because it gets so hot so fast. took a day or two before i learned how to take a 'good' puff off it. i really like it though its super fast and easy to deal with, and very portable. i rarely need portability any more, but its nice to have an option like this.
 

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My current strat is to build the smallest diameter coil that fills the whole bottom, so I've got a 10 wrap 1.5mm. Just a plain fused clapton, .56ohm, 50.5w. I actually like to load the sucker up as much as I can, reclaim doesn't taste that bad to me. I just burn the coil clean every 3 or 4 bowls.

I'm a believer in the psychological component of vaping. I mean, the whole point is to trick the taste buds into believing they're tasting something like food when it's really just flavored air. It's a bit silly maybe, but I match flavors up with corresponding colors, stuff like that. I agree there's something about a mech mod that just makes juice taste better. I had this lemon iced tea going in a Dead Rabbit RTA on a regulated mod, switched it to an Elder Dragon on a RAM mech and it's like a different juice. Should be the same thing, but isn't. I think a big part of it is psychology, lol.
 
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I've got a 10 wrap 1.5mm. Just a plain fused clapton, .56ohm, 50.5w. I actually like to load the sucker up as much as I can, reclaim doesn't taste that bad to me
something like that is prolly a lot better for this than my stagg (at .1 ohms ~150w on parallel mech). i think the problem with mine (in relation to getting more than one good puff in a row) is that the coil is half above the 'water line' in the ceramic trough...it absorbs whatever is in the trough as it cools from each puff, but it can only hold so much. it heats up so fast i imagine the top dries out instantly and gets super hot even if the bottom is submerged and working properly...but that first puff right after you load it up is always perfect because the shatter is working its way down the coil instead of trying to fight its way back up.

i have a few ideas for coils specific to this atomizer that i am looking forward to trying when i need to replace this build.

I agree there's something about a mech mod that just makes juice taste better
i just like the way the power is delivered. regulated mods have temp curves and different modes for different puffs, and it always makes me feel like there is something wrong with it (battery dying/loose coil leg/dirty contacts etc) while im in the middle of a puff. i imagine theres someone out there who likes that but its not me lol...
 
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